The editorial from Dagens Nyheter,
frames the issue of the knowledge demands for obtaining a medical license in an
non-precise way, and is on at least
one occasion plainly wrong!
First, I agree with the editorial that the time-consuming process of validating your medical education and license is highly problematic and a waste of knowledge! The personal tragedies speak for themselves. Now hopefully, with the additional funding and staff, Socialstyrelsen will be able speed up the process, and validate the applications within 3-6 months.
The language learning process would surely also benefit from an economical ”booster”, not to mention the allocation of resources to hospitals offering internships and probationary service.
Regarding the knowledge demands, let me first disclose that I personally find it beneficial that we in Sweden expect a broad level of knowledge, among our physicians.
However, it should non the less be noted that the knowledge level expected for obtaining a Swedish medical license are in no way near that of a specialist in the fileds mentioned.
What is for example
sufficient knowledge in for instance gynecology, pediatrics and psychiatry.
These are in no way that of a specialist in the given fields. However, should not a ”
super skilled orthopaedic surgeon” be expected to recognise the most common symptoms of depression or heart failure? And in addition know what is a suitable treatment to start with, or at least where that knowledge can be obtained, without having to call in a consult in the relevant field? I don’t find those knowledge expectations ”
unreasonable” at all.
I have personally worked abroad, in a country where they had more of a ”not my field, call the consultant”-culture, and requests were not rarely trivial, even borderline-ridiculous;
(1) cardiologist for decision to increase beta-blocker for a patient with known a.fib and therapeutical Warfarin
(2) dermatologist for treatment of reoccurring (non-serious) psoriasis
After 5+ years of medical education, and possible additional clinical practice, I firmly believe that one should be able to make those calls, or at least be able to reason oneself to a suitable answer together with nearby colleagues, without having to call in a specialist. But maybe that’s just me?
Also, the examples given in the editorial, a ”world renowned heart surgeon” and a ”skilled orthopaedic surgeon”, are both unfitting.
Neither of these surgeons
would havet o take the knowledge test (TULE) nor do the 18+ months internship (AT).
skilled orthopedic surgeon from Syria has to sit at home because he did not pass a sufficient number of the gynecology questions in the knowledge test
Since that they are both specialists with experience (how else do you become "
skilled" or "
world renowned "?), they would be eligible for the
probationary service*, consisting of six consecutive months within a relevant field of practice, i.e. in the two examples, thorax/heart surgery/vascular surgery and orthopaedics, respectively.
*
See Step 3.
https://www.socialstyrelsen.se/applicat ... ofmedicine
For those interested, the goal with this
probationary service is to assess the candidate's:
- Medical knowledge in relation to the requirements of Swedish certification /medical license
- Discernment / clinical judgement
- Approach to patients and staff
- General suitability as a doctor
Read more about the goals and assessment criteria here (in Swedish):
https://www.socialstyrelsen.se/ansokaom ... akaresteg3
The editorial from Dagens Nyheter, [b][color=#00BF00]frames[/color][/b] the issue of the knowledge demands for obtaining a medical license in an [b][color=#00BF00]non-precise[/color][/b] way, and is on at least [b][color=#BF0000]one occasion plainly wrong[/color][/b]!
First, I agree with the editorial that the time-consuming process of validating your medical education and license is highly problematic and a waste of knowledge! The personal tragedies speak for themselves. Now hopefully, with the additional funding and staff, Socialstyrelsen will be able speed up the process, and validate the applications within 3-6 months.
The language learning process would surely also benefit from an economical ”booster”, not to mention the allocation of resources to hospitals offering internships and probationary service.
Regarding the knowledge demands, let me first disclose that I personally find it beneficial that we in Sweden expect a broad level of knowledge, among our physicians.
However, it should non the less be noted that the knowledge level expected for obtaining a Swedish medical license are in no way near that of a specialist in the fileds mentioned.
What is for example
[quote]sufficient knowledge in for instance gynecology, pediatrics and psychiatry.[/quote]
These are in no way that of a specialist in the given fields. However, should not a ”[i]super skilled orthopaedic surgeon[/i]” be expected to recognise the most common symptoms of depression or heart failure? And in addition know what is a suitable treatment to start with, or at least where that knowledge can be obtained, without having to call in a consult in the relevant field? I don’t find those knowledge expectations ”[i]unreasonable[/i]” at all.
I have personally worked abroad, in a country where they had more of a ”not my field, call the consultant”-culture, and requests were not rarely trivial, even borderline-ridiculous;
(1) cardiologist for decision to increase beta-blocker for a patient with known a.fib and therapeutical Warfarin
(2) dermatologist for treatment of reoccurring (non-serious) psoriasis
After 5+ years of medical education, and possible additional clinical practice, I firmly believe that one should be able to make those calls, or at least be able to reason oneself to a suitable answer together with nearby colleagues, without having to call in a specialist. But maybe that’s just me?
Also, the examples given in the editorial, a ”world renowned heart surgeon” and a ”skilled orthopaedic surgeon”, are both unfitting. [color=#BF0000][b]Neither[/b][/color] of these surgeons [color=#BF0000][b]would havet o take the knowledge test (TULE)[/b][/color] nor do the 18+ months internship (AT).
[quote]skilled orthopedic surgeon from Syria has to sit at home because he did not pass a sufficient number of the gynecology questions in the knowledge test[/quote]
Since that they are both specialists with experience (how else do you become "[i]skilled[/i]" or "[i]world renowned[/i] "?), they would be eligible for the [b][u][color=#400080]probationary service[/color]*[/u][/b], consisting of six consecutive months within a relevant field of practice, i.e. in the two examples, thorax/heart surgery/vascular surgery and orthopaedics, respectively.
* [color=#400080][i]See[/i] [b]Step 3.[/b][/color]
[url]https://www.socialstyrelsen.se/applicationforswedishlicencetopractiseothercountries/doctorofmedicine[/url]
For those interested, the goal with this [color=#400080][b]probationary service[/b] [/color]is to assess the candidate's:
- Medical knowledge in relation to the requirements of Swedish certification /medical license
- Discernment / clinical judgement
- Approach to patients and staff
- General suitability as a doctor
Read more about the goals and assessment criteria here (in Swedish):
[url]https://www.socialstyrelsen.se/ansokaomlegitimationochintyg/legitimation/utbildadiannatland/lakaresteg3[/url]